风景园林英文原著
landscape2050
2007年12月17日 21:20:01
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我不知道这有多少人对目前翻译进来的书感到极度不满的?一本好好的《风景》,被光明日报出版社叫一个李斯的人翻译了,中国狮子林翻译成十字林,场所精神翻译成“地精”,晕倒啊!一本极有价值的专业书就这样沦为地摊货。还有那大名鼎鼎人物主译的《景观设计学》、《图解人类景观-环境塑造史论》,好多段好多段的文字,光能看懂一个个汉字,连起来根本让人猜不出在说些什么?都说《景观设计学》快人手一本了,又有多少人看懂看完过?

我不知道这有多少人对目前翻译进来的书感到极度不满的?

一本好好的《风景》,被光明日报出版社叫一个李斯的人翻译了,中国狮子林翻译成十字林,场所精神翻译成“地精”,晕倒啊!一本极有价值的专业书就这样沦为地摊货。
还有那大名鼎鼎人物主译的《景观设计学》、《图解人类景观-环境塑造史论》,好多段好多段的文字,光能看懂一个个汉字,连起来根本让人猜不出在说些什么?都说《景观设计学》快人手一本了,又有多少人看懂看完过?

语言传达的是含义,一个主题之下有若干意群,每个意群又有若干句子构成,相互间有着有机关系——如果光注意逐字逐句地对照,忽略了句子之间和意群之间的逻辑关系,那不叫翻译,叫拼凑。况且英文汉语本来语法结构就不同,英文逻辑关系靠连接词靠从句靠短语,长句多。汉语意群的构成更注重句子间的含义联系,短句多。

反正我很久之前就已经彻底被翻译书打败了,丧失信心了,苦学英文了,直接看原著了——反而爽快很多。

不知道还有多少人和我有同样的感受?

几年下来,俺积累风景园林专业英文原著不少(专著大概有70多册,大多是著名文献。期刊论文学位论文不论),不知是否有同好愿意和我交流交流?
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landscape2050
2007年12月17日 21:28:26
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彼得沃克《极简主义园林设计》原文节选:

Distinct from the specificity of its art world argument relating to a certain group of artists as a certain moment in the 1960’s, minimalism in the landscape seems to me to represent a revival of the analytic interests of the early modernists that parallel in many respects the spirit of classicism. It is the formal reinvention and the quest for primary purity and human meaning that dignify its spiritual strength: an interest in mystery and nonreferential content are thereby linked to the quest of classical thought.
As with the term and idea of classicism, minimalism has entered our fast-paced society and been further defined and redefined by varying artistic and cultural disciplines. In this greater context, minimalism continues to imply an approach that rejects an attempt to intellectually, technically, or industrially overcome the forces of nature. It suggests a conceptual order and the reality of changing natural systems with geometry, narrative, rhythm, gesture, and other devices that can imbue space with a sense of unique place that lives in memory.


《景观设计学》绪论最后一段:
For the moment, it seems, we have lost touch. Perhaps, before we can progress, we must look back. We must regain the old instincts, relearn the old truths. We must return to the fundamental wisdom of the gopher building a home and village and the beaver engineering a dam. We must apply the planning approach of the farmer working from day to day in the fields, fully aware of nature’s forces, forms, and features, respecting and responding to them, adapting them to a purpose. We must develop a deeper understanding of our physical and spiritual ties to the earth. We must rediscover nature.

《图解人类景观》最后一段:
For the first time in history, the shape of the world tat is unfolding expresses collective materialism rather than prescribed religion. In the advanced countries, the individual is evolving his own personal beliefs within his own home. The greatest threat to his existence may not be commercialism, or war, or pollution, or noise, or consumption of capital resources, or even the threat of extinction from without, but rather the blindness that follows sheer lack of appreciation and the consequent destruction of those values in history that together are symbolic of a single great idea.
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landscape2050
2007年12月17日 21:33:08
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丹•克雷的哲学:
The process of addition and expansion, renovation and reinvention is never done. To build is to keep imagining fresh possibilities; if we stopped, the place would be static. Then, we would move out to new, unexplored quarters, like a butterfly emerging from its chrysalis – not because the insect has grown too large for its larval envelop, but because to stay in that envelope would be to seal off new experiences. I am always searching for the purest connection to that which holds us all together – we can call it spirit or mystery; it can be embodied by descri ptions of the universe or of religion; it takes the form of sacred geometries and infinitesimal ecologies. There is an evolving, ever-changing, many-faceted order that binds everything into harmonious parts of the greater whole.


麦克哈格《设计结合自然》结语:
Our eyes do not divide us from the world, but unite us with it. Let this be known to be true. Let us then abandon the simplicity of separation and give unity its due. Let us abandon the self-mutilation which ahs been our way and give expression to the potential harmony of man-nature. The world is abundant, we require only a deference born of understanding to fulfill man’s promise. Man is that uniquely conscious creature who can perceive and express. He must become the steward of the biosphere. To do this he must design with nature.

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landscape2050
2007年12月17日 21:35:15
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哈格里夫斯关于“后现代主义”的高论:

Modernism and post modernism are cultural attitudes rather than design styles. Within that attitude which came to be called modernism, Modern Art had many styles ranging from impressionistic to cubist to abstract expressionism (and there are styles within these styles). The same can be said for modern architecture—deStijl , futuristic, international, brutalistic and high-tech —all are modernist styles. While landscape architecture probably had fewer styles within modernism, he two predominant styles—asymmetrically geometric and fluidly amorphous —revolve around an internal organization system, sharing with architecture and sculpture an idealized and invented space.

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Post modernism seems to be a direct reversal of modernistic philosophy and its attendant idealization. “It knows about shortages. It knows about inflation and devaluation. It is aware of the increased costs of objects. And so it quotes, scavenges , ransacks , recycles the past. Its method is synthesis rather than analysis. It is style-free and free-style. Playful and full of doubt, it denies nothing. Tolerant of ambiguity , contradiction, complexity, incoherence, it is eccentrically inclusive. It mimics life, accepts awkwardness and crudity , takes an amateur stance. Structured by time rather than form, concerned with context instead of style, it uses memory, research, confession, fiction — with irony, whimsy , and disbelief.” Levin’s descri ptions of modernism and post modernism are clearly about cultural attitudes rather than specific styles.
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landscape2050
2008年01月28日 17:27:00
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看来没有人感兴趣的,郁闷!
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rosefairy
2008年02月13日 14:00:11
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i try to understand ,keep going.
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huhucry_717
2008年03月21日 21:38:39
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Modernism and post modernism are cultural attitudes rather than design styles. Within that attitude which came to be called modernism, Modern Art had many styles ranging from impressionistic to cubist to abstract expressionism (and there are styles within these styles).
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huhucry_717
2008年03月21日 21:40:14
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主要是想要电子版的英文原著,最好网上能出现,我们正在为毕业设计煞费苦心呢!
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vexilla
2008年03月22日 10:04:48
9楼
楼主有原著的电子版吗 发一下来了
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simon870219
2008年03月23日 11:17:22
10楼
有电子版本吗?
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landscape2050
2008年06月14日 22:46:42
11楼
电子版?晕哦!

一是做起来很吃力,
二是侵犯人家版权不敢做。
我本来想和手上有经典外文书籍的朋友交换下影印本。

看来各位都是用来做毕业外文文献之用了。
最近有一本景观设计专业英语,上面原著文献不少,引文出处也注得很详细。
也许有帮助。
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